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June 20, 2023

Este Haim Executive Produces Classic Songs with a Modern Twist for “A Small Light” Soundtrack

As the vocalist and bassist in the band Haim, Este Haim has spent a lot of her time with her sisters Danielle and Alana — after all, they’ve been bandmates since 2007 and have released three records.

In addition to their albums and sold out tours, Este and her sisters have contributed songs to the soundtracks of “The Divergent Series: Insurgent,” “The Hunger Games: Mockingjay” and “Barbie,” and guested on songs by A$AP Rocky, Kid Cudi and Primal Scream.

But over the last few months, the eldest Haim sister had her first experience as an executive music producer on a television series. The series, “A Small Light,” is the story of Miep and Jan Gies, the Dutch couple who protected Anne Frank and her family from the Nazis for two years in an annex in Amsterdam.

While composer Ariel Marx created the original score for “A Small Light” — and a phenomenal one at that — Este produced modern covers of eight songs.

The songs covered are from The Great American Songbook: Este’s sister Danielle singing  “Till We Meet Again,” a 1951 hit for Doris Day; “When You’re Smiling,” performed by Weyes Blood, written in 1928 and covered by legends including Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, and Frank Sinatra; “I’ll Be Seeing You” performed by Moses Sumney (a hit for both Bing Crosby and  Billie Holiday in 1944). The album also features performances by Angel Olson, Remi Wolf, and saxophonist Kamasi Washington, more than up to the task on his rendition of Charlie Parker’s “Cheryl.” The performances and production emphasize the songs’ yearning, hazy melancholy that’s especially heartbreaking when put in context of the millions forcibly separated from their homes and families, with only a fleeting hope they’ll see each other again.

Haim told the Journal that she hopes her work on the soundtrack for “A Small Light” is the first of many she’ll do as executive music producer. Though with “A Small Light,” it’s hard to imagine a subject closer to her family’s history.

Haim’s parents both have family members that perished in the Holocaust, and both grew up around survivors. There’s a whole side of her mother’s family that lived in Baranavichy (in the Brest region of Belarus) that was completely wiped out by the Nazis. So from her young days at Dixie Canyon Elementary in Sherman Oaks through graduating from Los Angeles County High School for the Arts, in Haim grew up well-aware of the Holocaust. She first read Anne Frank’s “The Diary of a Young Girl” when she was eight. Before she became a musician, Haim wanted to work for the Shoah Foundation.

She grew up in a musical family where almost every generation going back to her great-great grandparents sang or made music. Her great-great-grandmother Fanny was a piano teacher. And some of her fondest memories while growing up were visiting her Bubby Blanche in Palm Springs, who turned on the Victrola and sang the Andrews Sisters’ “Bei Mir Bist Du Schön (To Me You’re Beautiful).”

In 2014 while on tour, Haim and her sisters visited the Anne Frank house in Amsterdam for the first time. The Journal spoke with Este Haim about her experience as executive music producer for the series “A Small Light.” This conversation was edited for length and clarity.

JEWISH JOURNAL: How was the experience of making music with artists that aren’t your sisters?

ESTE HAIM: I had an amazing time doing it. I truly loved being in the driver’s seat and I realized how much I love working with other artists that don’t happen to be related to me. Although I do love working with my sisters and I have the time of my life with them. There was something really nice about getting to work with people that I was a fan of and that I wanted to be friends with. It was my evil plan to just kind of gather together people that I either always wanted to work with or just wanted to be friends with.

JJ: How much freedom were you given to assemble a team?

EH: I’m lucky enough that the producers and the writers in the studios gave me carte blanche. I’m also lucky enough that everyone that I asked was also just as excited as I was about the project and about the material. When it came to song selection, that was more of a collaborative process with the artist. I wanted to make sure that the artist felt comfortable and wanted to sing the song that I selected for them. So there was a lot of back and forth with the playlist and discussions about tone. It really was kind of a puzzle. It was the song, the artist, and then the episode that it was going to correspond with. So a little bit of a puzzle and then people’s schedules. But I really found that thrilling and I had the best time doing it.

JJ: Were there any particular songs on the soundtrack that absolutely had to be there?

EH: It’s either “Autumn Leaves,” which Remi Wolf covered, and also the Moses Sumney cover of “I’ll Be Seeing You.” I was like, they have to be. I chose artists that I knew could handle the material because it’s so rich and the melodies are not the easiest things to sing. It really required vocalists that could handle it. I’m lucky enough that everyone that I asked kind of was just “like, yeah, I’d love to.”

JJ: How do you manage the expectations of remaking a song by a musical legend?

EH: The good news about all the artists that are on this soundtrack are just f–king incredible. I had been listening to their records for years, and so I knew that they would be able to do these covers justice. At the end of the day, I think that the proof is kind of in the pudding. It wasn’t even necessarily that we’re making an homage, it was more just about doing a beautiful rendition of a beautiful song and having there be heart and emotion. Having the vocal be the centerpiece of the song. Having the vocals really shine, and just making sure that the emotion was there. When you have vocalists Sharon Van Etten and Angel Olsen, it’s a dream because they’re just such incredible vocalists.

JJ: Why is it important to have covers of these songs to go along with this soundtrack?

EH: The brief of the show was they wanted to update and bring a modern spin to the story. Anne Frank’s story has been told many, many times, it’s been depicted in TV and film many times. But what I think attracted me to this version was not only Tony [Phelan] and Joan [Rater’s] writing, which is amazing, but also the way into the show—depicting the story through the eyes of a woman [Miep Gies] who was an ordinary woman just doing extraordinary things. I thought it was really interesting and a really great way into the story. When they came to me, that was what they said. They wanted to take music from that era and just kind of update it. I wanted to keep things really classic and just let the song speak for itself and let the vocalist really do their thing.

JJ: What struck you about the themes of sisterhood in “A Small Light”?

EH: I thought of Miep as Anne’s oldest sister. [Anne] had Margot, but Miep had access to the outside world. So she was kind of the older sister that would come back with photos of movie stars that Anne loved, and Miep gave her hand-me-down clothes. Miep was the window to the outside world for her. I think she idolized Miep. They were like any other family. Margot and Anne fought, and my sisters and I fight, but it’s always love there and support. They were just a regular Jewish family living in really unfortunate circumstances. “A Small Light” does a really good job also of depicting what it was — everything from the costumes to the performances —these were just regular people just trying to survive and live their lives. And Miep, you can tell from the book, but also from the show, that she was just really standing up for what she believed in. And not everyone did that, but everyone was capable.

You can listen to the soundtrack from “A Small Light” on Spotify and Apple Music. The series can be watched on Disney+ and Hulu.

 

 

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Travel Enthusiast’s Dream: Nina Ruggiero, Trailblazing Founder of ‘Be a Travel Writer’ Class!

Thank you Nina Ruggiero, Travel and Leisure‘s digital editorial director and founder of the “Be A Travel Writer” course, for joining me on my podcast!

Nina told me, “Don’t be afraid to ask to do the things that you truly want to do.

Learn more about her new “Be a Travel Writer” course- where they teach everything you need to know to get started.

INTERVIEW

Lisa Niver:

Good morning. This is Lisa Niver, from We Said Go Travel and I am beyond excited and honored to be able to interview today, an editor from Travel & Leisure, who I just met in real life in Ireland. Hi, Nina.

Nina:

Hi, Lisa. Thanks so much for having me on. Nice to see you again, since Ireland.

Lisa Niver:

My goodness, that trip was amazing. I love Maren and Travel Classics.

Nina at Ashford Castle for Travel Classics Ireland 2023

 

Nina:

We met so many great people. Maren’s amazing and Ashford Castle, you really can’t beat that setting for a travel conference.

Lisa Niver:

That place was amazing. But even more amazing than Travel Classics, and Ashford Castle, is YOU! You are an incredible premiere editor at Travel & Leisure. Tell people about what you do now, and how did you become an editor at Travel & Leisure. Congratulations.

Nina:

Thank you so much. I’m the Digital editorial director at Travel & Leisure, which basically, means I oversee the digital team, everything from special packages to day-to-day coverage. We do everything from travel news to features, to SEO and travel guides. It’s a great job. I love it so much. I’ve been at T&L for seven years now.

I started as a senior editor, then deputy and now this. I’ve seen them under three different companies, and it’s been a little bit different each time, but we’re growing and evolving, and the traffic to our website is much higher than it was when I started. We have a really engaged audience.

And in terms of how I got here, it was a long process. I knew I wanted to do it since I was in college. I decided I love traveling so much, it’s my greatest passion. Anytime I’m not in school, I’m traveling. I’m spending all the money I have on traveling, and studying abroad, and all of that. Then I found out, travel writing is a real job.

I wasn’t sure if that was a full-time job. So, to get there, I did so many other types of journalism, first. I did take one travel writing course in college. It was the only one that they offered at the University of Miami. We took a trip to New Orleans and I did my first ever travel reporting from there and I just loved it. But I also needed a job.

When I graduated, I did local news for a while. I was, literally, chasing fire trucks and police cars, and reporting on a town that I was assigned to, sometimes even a house fire in the middle of the night. It was crazy. Then I ended up getting a job covering fashion for a few years, which was fun. I just got a little bored of it after a while. And then, I did all sorts of other things, I covered lifestyle, wellness and politics for a little bit, which I did not enjoy. And then, the main thing that got me to T&L is, while I was doing all of that, I didn’t forget that I wanted to be in travel.

So, wherever I was, even if my job was fashion, I figured I could also contribute to the travel section. When my job was hard news, but no one was contributing to the travel section. I asked, “Can I do it?” So, everyone kept saying, YES! because if you’re getting your actual job done, no one’s ever going to say, “No, don’t do more work.” So, I worked a lot of Sundays and things, but I really built out my travel clips. And by the time the job at T&L came about, I had plenty to show for myself, in terms in the travel world, even though that hadn’t been my job.

That being said, I know we are going to talk about my “Be A Travel Writer” course that I am doing right now, to teach other people, and a part of the reason that I wanted to start that, is because I don’t think everyone’s journey needs to be quite as long as mine. I did all that for about 10 years before starting at T&L, so it’s a lot. It was really rewarding along the way.

I took a sabbatical at one point, I moved to Sicily for a few months, and just traveled around Europe, and wrote about it, and was sending stories back to the New York newspaper, I was working at the time. It was very New York centric, the place I worked. I wrote a New Yorker’s guide to Athens calling it “East Village of Athens.” Those stories did really, really well, and gave me momentum when I came back to my normal job to keep doing travel content as well.

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